Wednesday, June 07, 2006

Best Nation of People (Ideal Society)

How many Iraqis must die until Muslims start condeming the violence in the name of their religion?

Imagine living in Baghdad, when your neighbour or family member has been kidnapped, beheaded, lost a limb, or if they are lucky have died. Now tell me is it ok for a Muslim to kill your family memeber? A loved one? Is it what the Quran tells you oh Muslim brother to do this?
I would like to know which Ayah actually allows for such behaviour.
Please leave this Muslim brother a comment to enlighten me.

Also what are we doing about the ayah which says "Kontom Khair Ummatin Okhrijat lil-nas, ta'moroon bil ma'roof wa tanhawn a'n il monkar" "You were the best nation of people, for you command everything good and condemn every evil deed. "

So when will you try to live up to your religion?

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

You want enlightenment? Well, here is some...

The trouble is that Muslims ARE living up to their religion. The fact is that Islam is a religion of hate, anger and violence. Read the Quran. Note the many passages steaching hate towards infidels. Read the hadiths; note the many accounts of murder, torture, slavery, rape by Islam's prophet and his men. Do you not know these things?

Maybe, just maybe these things may explain current events. If you would like some references and links to Islamic texts regarding these things, I will provide them. You can then write your response, as you do so well.

Take care.

John Kactuz

Faisal said...

John,

I encourage open minded discussions. If you are willing to keep an open mind, then so will I. This blog is not meant for Non-Muslims. It clearly targets a Muslim audience.

I have read the Quran many times and in Arabic (not the Engilsh Translated version). I know what the Quran says and what it doesn't. If you take any statment out of context you could easily change the whole message. I know which text you will quote. However, I can quote you more than twice whatever you come up with from the bible.

As for Hadith, it is a collection of stories passed on from generation to another. It was collected by a few men around 300 years after the incidents occured. No Muslim will ever tell you that Hadith is error free. Only the Quran is. I don't use the Hadith in this blog to quote anything. I don't consider it a reference unless it clarifies something about the Quran and doesn't contradict it.

After the death of Mohammad there was a political struggle between some groups. Therefore many hadiths were made up to praise one person or another for political reasons.

With that said and putting religion aside, let us look at the West (US and UK to be more precise) and see how those predominantly christian countries and freedom loving countries have lived up to their preaching.

The United States has a record for the number of wars waged and conflicts engineered in the last 100 years alone. The ONLY country to use a Nuclear bomb. The British used Chemical weapons in Iraqi in the 20's. The US funded and as a matter of fact created the number one most wanted terrorist group in this world. The list goes on and on. Now they are slaughtering on daily basis innocent Iraqis and Afghanis and death toll is rising. The number have surpassed the 9/11 mark by ten fold. Many slaughters have been attributed to them like Hiroshima, My Lai, The Highway of Death (1991), and now Haditha. Not to mention the ones that the media has not picked up. Please don't preach to me about violence and hate. As I am preaching to my fellow people, go preach to yours.

Actions speak louder than words. The above few examples tell us something about hate and violence.

Faisal said...

Here is one quote from the bible:

This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

I believe that the bible is a book from God. I don't believe that God is unfair and thus any unfairness I see in the bible I have to question as being subject to error either by translation or though propogation.